Tibet Protests – Both Sides
There has been a lot of media coverage of the various Tibetan protests of late, and all of them seem to have a pro-Tibetan bias, according to some Chinese students. Both students in China and abroad have launched internet attacks on the western press. This is an outpouring of emotion never before seen. Students have made websites, YouTube videos and Facebook groups all dedicated to showing the Chinese side of the issue.
“To all you bandwagon jumpers who know nothing about chinese history and to all you bashers, let me give you some solid FACTS why Tibet was, is and always will be a part of China,” [sic] says the opening statement of a video on YouTube that the site says was viewed nearly 2 million times by Saturday. The video goes on to give the history of US involvement in Tibet, how the Chinese have helped the Tibetan infrastructure, and compares asking China to leave Tibet to asking the US or Canada to return to Europe.
This is all in response to newspapers reporting on the Chinese ‘crackdown’ on Tibetan protests. (The students point out that ‘crackdown’ is a biased word choice)
There does seem to be more favor toward pro-Tibet people. Recently 20 Tibetan students entered a UN Compound in Nepal to voice their opinions. Instead of being escorted off the compound, they were fed lunch, and asked to write down their grievances on paper to be given to UN officials.
Recently there have been calls by the EU and President Bush for China to open a dialog with Tibet, and specifically its spiritual leader the Dalai Lama. All parties say they will be keeping a close watch on China for human rights violations, and although an Olympic boycott has been discussed, the idea doesn’t seem popular.
So far there have been 19 (China’s number) and 140 (Tibet’s number) deaths resulting from the boycotts. Either way, something has to be done, and China’s ‘crackdown’ is only increasing the unrest and casting a negative light on China. There definitely need to be some communication opened between Tibetan officials and Chinese officials. The Dalai Lama says he doesn’t want Tibetan independence, only autonomy.
I’ve watch the video referred to above, and although it does raise some legitimate concerns most of the counter arguments can be easily refuted. For instance, it says America should return Texas if it wants China to free Tibet, but there are no Texan rallying for independence (and I, for one, am all for giving it back to Mexico anyway. Nothing good has ever come out of Texas.) It also talks about the money China gives Tibet, but if China freed Tibet it obviously wouldn’t be giving it money anymore. The Tibetan people apparently want freedom more than money, so implying that China shouldn’t free Tibet because China supports Tibet is implying that you know better than the Tibetan people what is best for them.
-Reggie
The YouTube Video (Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China)
The Facebook Group for the video
Bush urges restraint by China on Tibet, talks (The Guardian)
Young Chinese abroad launch Internet attacks against Western press over Tibet unrest (International Herald Tribune)
EU Ministers Call for Talks Between China, Dalai Lama (Voice of America)
EU agrees on Tibet talks, not Olympics boycott (ABC News)
Tibetan Students Enter U.N. Compound (The NewYork Times)
Cardano said,
March 31, 2008 at 9:55 am
It’s rather naïve to believe that these videos are the work of individuals, Chinese students or otherwise. Clearly these are the verbal diarrhoea of the CCP’s Propaganda-Lies Unit Western Media, and it shows.
They are so bereft of any factual information or insight and are of such a rude (crude) nature that they could only be the work of a truly brainwashed and depraved mind, but then this is understandable after a lifetime of incessant brainwashing and indoctrination with perverse lies an hate propaganda.
The truth and facts are very different indeed and some can be glimpsed at this vide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi2lCCot620#GU5U2spHI_4
But China has been caught out yet again.
There is incontrovertible evidence that China started, incited and carried out the rioting, looting, larceny and beatings in Lhasa. Just as they have done many times before, in order to discredit the peacefully demonstrating Tibetan monks!
You won/t get this in the so called “free press” oh no, the west is to busy kowtowing to the murderous cabal in Beijing and running the official CCP propaganda lies that Tibet always was a part of China and that the bad, bad monks carried out the riots instigated by the ‘Dalai Lama clique’.
There is so much trade at stake and we rather prostitute ourselves and abandon all principles than make a stand and call a spade a spade and forsake the blood tarnished trade with China for the purported principles of what we stand for and believe in.
Perverse as it is but the world will go to Beijing in August and close both eyes to the atrocities and Lies of the most heinous regime of all times. This is the 21st century and they behave as though in the dark ages.
Thanks to the internet and rightfully minded people we can get the facts and independent truths, we don’t need apologists and realpolitik, which is just another word for prostitution.
Of course political beliefs are like religion, and once you’ve subjugated your mind to a doctrine you become scared to even cast your curiosity beyond the bounds of your entrenched comfort zone. People who don’t dare to investigate and weigh up differing views, opinions and knowledge have really intellectually died and become slaves to their meme.
Now here are some links for those who dare to find out what really goes on:
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-3-28/68132.html
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=20039
http://www.faluninfo.net/fdifocus_organ.asp
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/columnists/Secret-atrocities-of-Chinese-regime.1560709.jp
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/china-cloaking-soldiers-as-monks-to-incite-riots/62231-3.html?xml
kurt said,
April 1, 2008 at 11:32 am
Well, there was Mollie Ivins. And Willie Johnson, and Leadbelly, and Stevie Ray Vaughan, and any number of great musicians. And we still have Jim Hightower.
Thanks for the info on Tibet; an interesting experiment for the blogosphere.
hydra said,
April 1, 2008 at 11:54 am
please know some tibet history before you even talk about it.
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
Hu_suck said,
April 1, 2008 at 4:13 pm
what a propaganda propagator! look in your mirror, jerks. you will find filthy inside your closed society. open up internet in china first before you try to use blog to your advantage
SJTF said,
April 2, 2008 at 12:59 am
I think you’re right: the arguments just don’t hold up. It’s true that China helped build infrastructure in Tibet, like building a railroad to Lhasa, but this failed to benefit many Tibetans. In contrast, this served – directly or indirectly – to increase migration of Han Chinese to the region, opening businesses and taking jobs away from Tibetans.
Also, re” the Olympic boycott – though the idea of a full boycott has not gained much momentum, there have been calls from French President Nicholas Sarkozy for the EU to consider boycotting the opening ceremonies. U.S. House of Reps. leader Nancy Pelosi has also publicly stated that George Bush should keep the option “on the table.”
Finally, about Texas – I’ve heard that Austin’s really nice… maybe it’d be worth keeping.
http://keyboardandsword.blogspot.com/
news4vip said,
April 2, 2008 at 7:22 am
Japan’s Emperor Akihito and other members of the royal family are unlikely to attend the Beijing Olympics amid concerns here about China’s crackdown in Tibet and other issues, a report said Wednesday.
The Japanese government thinks it is not a good time for a rare royal visit because of the unrest in Tibet, a recent health scare over Chinese-made “gyoza” dumplings and a spat over disputed gas fields, the Sankei daily said.
“We were planning not to ask royals to go even before the gyoza incident (surfaced in January). It is all the more true now that the Tibetan unrest occurred,” it quoted an unnamed government official as saying.
Japanese authorities have confirmed at least 10 people suffered pesticide poisoning after eating tainted dumplings imported from China.
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao invited Emperor Akihito and other royals to the opening ceremony of the August Olympics when he visited Japan last year.
The emperor told Wen then that the government decides on the royal family’s foreign trips, a palace spokesman said.
The foreign ministry said no formal decision had been made.
“Nothing has been decided regarding the attendance of dignitaries,” a ministry official said.
The last trip to China by members of Japan’s imperial household was a landmark visit by Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko in 1992.
China remains deeply resentful over Japan’s brutal occupation from 1931 to 1945, an era in which the Japanese revered Akihito’s father Hirohito as a demigod.
The two countries have recently worked to mend ties, which were strained by former Japanese prime minister Junichiro Koizumi’s annual visits to a war shrine in Tokyo, which Beijing regards as a symbol of Japan’s militarist past.
Chinese President Hu Jintao is expected to visit Japan in the coming months.
http://www.france24.com/en/20080402-japans-royals-likely-skip-olympics-report
Powell Lucas said,
April 7, 2008 at 2:46 pm
My comments don’t have anything to do with the right or wrong of the issues surrounding Tibetan independence. Unlike the protest-of-the-week crowd, of whom 90% are probably no better informed than I, I would have to make myself much better educated on the subject before jumping to conclusions.
What I am protesting is this one sided potrait of events being spoon fed to us on a daily basis by the demagoges and headline seeking press.
About a week ago a woman who had just arrived back in Canada from Tibet was interviewed by the CBC. She and her companions were in a hotel lobby where they witnessed the events first hand. Her story does not quite fit the picture being presented to the world. According to this woman, what started out as a peaceful march soon degenerated into a full fledged riot. Shop keepers were pulled from their stores and savagely beaten by the mob, as were passing bicyclists and pedestrians. Windows were smashed, buildings torched and cars were burned. This woman was interviewed the one time and in spite of efforts by the interviewer to twist her story into an anti-Chinese tirade she held to what she had seen. There was no follow up nor has she been interviewed again.
Reminiscence: during the Gulf of Tonkin incident which precipitated the buidup of U.S. forces in Vietnam a number of sailors who were aboard the U.S. ship that was supposedly attacked came ashore in Halifax. According to them the U.S. warship has never been under threat. The North Vietnamese patrol boats were firing at South Vietnamese boats that had attacked a Northern port. The ships from the South took refuge behind the U.S. warship. This was also an interview that was a one-off revelation. The story was never followed up nor did it ever run on television except fot part of that one day.
At a recent Tibetan protest rally in Calgary, a young woman was interviewed by the local media. She proclaimed that she was prepared to give her life for the cause of Tibetan independence. My question is simply: then what in the hell are you doing protesting in Calgary? If you are so keen for your cause (and it may be a perfectly lauable cause) why aren’t you back home in Tibet helping those people who are doing the heavy lifting. The risk to life and limb at a Calgary protest are pretty slim.
Reminiscence: following the uprisings in Hugary in the mid-1950s a number of the “freedom fighters” located to Southern Ontario. These people were feted as great champions and they were not shy about telling all and sundry about their daring exploints. My question then was the same as it is with young woman at the Tibetan rally in Calgary: what in hell are you doing in Canada? Did you abandon your mates to the Soviets? During World War II the French, Dutch, Polish and Swedish resistance fighters stayed at home and fought the good fight where it counted.
Peaceful demonstrators are free to express their complaints against preceived injustices; looters and rioters are not.
Reminiscence: the rioters and looters at the G8 and IMF conferences in Seattle and Montreal were treated as the thugs they are by the local police. Why doesn’t this hold true of the police and army in Tibet? Whatever the nobility of the cause or the morality of the issue; if you want to destroy property and people’s lives do it at the scene of your anger…not in someone else’s backyard. Hypocrisy is alive and well regarding Tibet.
гей эротика знакомство said,
December 17, 2009 at 4:15 pm
я думаю: благодарю..